Episode 3

July 29, 2020

00:33:39

The Interracial Friendship Gap

The Interracial Friendship Gap
Women Bridging the Gap
The Interracial Friendship Gap
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Show Notes

Can Black women and white women have deep and authentic friendships? What are the stumbling blocks? Lenya and Alexandra share how many friends of other races they have. And then they push one another—how close are they? Friends or mere acquaintances? Together, they explore how deeper friendships might be formed and what the realities are for women today who need safe spaces to restore. ### Sources: [Melinda Anderson, The Atlantic, When White Children and Black Children Grow Apart,](https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/06/interracial-friendships-fade/486902/) [Kim McLarin, The Washington Post, Can Black Women and White Women be True Friends?,](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/29/can-black-women-white-women-be-true-friends/) [https://www.thoughtco.com/how-race-influences-friendship-2834745](https://www.thoughtco.com/how-race-influences-friendship-2834745) [https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/five_ways_to_foster_interracial_friendship_in_schools](https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/five_ways_to_foster_interracial_friendship_in_schools) [https://namp.americansforthearts.org/namp/get-smarter/resources/how-navigating-white-spaces-can-exhaust-you](https://namp.americansforthearts.org/namp/get-smarter/resources/how-navigating-white-spaces-can-exhaust-you) This episode was inspired, in part, by: [The Swirl Suite, https://www.swirlsuite.com/](https://www.swirlsuite.com/), Racism in the Wine Industry -- ### Want to talk about this with your friends? Use our conversation prompts to get you going: 1. Why do you think white women often say they have friendships with Black women, while Black women often feel acquaintanceship? 2. What is the level of friendship that you have with your Black friends? Do you talk about race? Do you talk about the Black Experience? What is the level of friendship you have with your white friends? Do you talk about race? The Black Experience? 3. What constitutes Allyship in the White community and why do a lot of progressive white people not have Black friends? 4. When having a party do you ever think about how your Black friends or non Black friends of Color are going to socialize and commune with others? 5. Black people often navigate White space, do you think White people can navigate Black spaces - ie get an invite to the Cookout? 6. Do you think that white feminism has a role in the complicated issue of trust in interracial female friendships? 7. Do you think interracial friendships that begin at childhood stand the test of time or does awareness and our environment foster "growing apart? -- Please **rate and review** this podcast if you enjoyed it; they greatly helps new listeners see this podcast is worth their time. You can find Women Bridging the Gap on [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/women-bridging-the-gap/id1521503012) and [Podchaser](https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/women-bridging-the-gap-1304390). **We want to hear from you!** Let us know how you’re speaking about these issues with your friends. **Let us know what topics you want to hear!** Email us at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) You can find us at: [WomenBridgingtheGap.com](https://womenbridgingthegap.com) You can find Lenya at: Instagram - [@Lenya_ goddess_ that_bitch](https://www.instagram.com/lenya_goddess_that_bitch) You can find Alexandra at: Instagram - [@a_xandra17](https://www.instagram.com/a_xandra17) and [@thewritingleap](https://www.instagram.com/thewritingleap) This podcast was edited by Brendan Hutchins from Podcast Advocate. Go to [PodcastAdvocate.Network](http://PodcastAdvocate.Network) or find him on [Twitter @PodcastAdvocate](https://twitter.com/podcastadvocate) to learn more.

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